Sorry for the double post:

That would mean Game Over if there could be a mafia kill tonight.

This is, of course, complete rubbish if there were only ever 3.5 mafia.

I find this quite bizarre. Runtime voted on Page 2 of the game.

In his very first post.

Now, I forgot my role limitations in my first post as well, so I can't really blame him if that's what happened.

but it seems odd to me that Runtime, a normally pretty astute player, would waste a once-in-a-game decision on a first-post random-ish vote..

I asked runtime about this, and said he was just really shitted off about the whole thing and figured a random guess early on was as good as anything.
I think this is why he was happy to be replaced.

re. make-up of final 4:

I don't think we'd have 2 mafia left, to unbalanced with antacid's role as well.
I understand if I was mafia, my lack of vote could explain us continuining with 2 mafia, but i'm not mafia so I'm ruling that out.

Which means we must have an s.k.

I don't see any evidence for a serial killer at all.

Of course you'd say that
For everyone else though we have 2 extra kills and someone claiming vig, which is all well and good for an s.k to claim

but then, if you were a s.k, they usually have unlimited kills.... grr.

is it possible you are a vig, and we also have 1 mafia, and an s.k?

either way, i'm thinking thalasso is the mafia.
carmine's claim of the jury has been untested, but she may have been hoping it was entirely dubya's doing allowing her the free claim.

I was very suspicious of thalasso's quick vote of adapa at the end of the day, which he never really explained satisfactorily.

Right, because it's not possible for me to have basically ignored this game, played poorly, and having realized this, be feeling rather foolish that I've been playing this way.

Right, that's not possible at all.

Then again, another explanation is that I was too bloody lazy to open 4 seperate posts, copy the text, paraphase to avoid modquotes and then repost them, with my thoughts.

Especially if I didn't see any value in the damn scraps of information I'd been fed. They seemed useless to me, until after I'd read your post.

Anyways Tick, you want an answer why I voted like that? It seemed right. There was the thing with Carmine. Lynching Haug would have left plenty of questions, but lynching Adapa would have answered some.

Hm, I've just thought of something that, for me, punches a hole through Thalasso. Araltaln said that he knew I was in all night on night 1, but I had no clue how he'd gathered this information (presumably by lurking outside my house). But Thalasso's bizarre information gathering implies that the information that his role gathered was about Haug, and the information that he was given as a result of Araltaln/Paranoia's role was that he was interviewed. So... I'm becoming more and more convinced that Thalasso is the remaining scum.

I don't really have time to post all this at the moment, but Daegul's comment here made me angry.

And finally, Carmine, who was all so ready to lynch Adapa when it looked like he'd been fingered.
But the next day, when it looked like he might wriggle out of it, she was mighty reluctant to vote, even after everyone had posted.

I was extremely ready to lynch Adapa (remember, for me, Antacid's information was confirmable via what he'd revealed about me) on that day. However, the next day, you are forgetting that it only required <i>three</i> votes, so of course I was extremely reluctant to vote until we'd talked it out properly. With probably at least two bad guys left, it seemed ridiculous to do otherwise. Extremely reluctant to vote? Yes, when a misplaced vote could've lost us the game

And don't forget that I was the one that had the case posted to the thread in the first place. Read it. Doesn't it sound like me and my writing style? Do you really think that it's a mod-created set-piece? Because IMO that would be ridiculously unbalanced

Carmine was also very eager to suggest the 'lynch a townie' idea before we'd even established the presence of a serial killer.

I was very eager because the mind-games (that I outlined earlier) sprang to mind: the bad guys trying to convince us to lynch them, but not to actually go through with it. And the reason I sounded eager was that everyone else flat out ignored the maths I was presenting

I am wildly swinging between the idea that Daegul as SK and Daegul as Vigilante.

Bah, so much for "not enough time to post". *back to work*

Well, I had planned to log in this morning and Vote Daegul on the grounds that he was being way too agressive.

However, I had to catch my bus and ended up just scraping the post.
I know I'm a townie, but I'm not sure how to convince other people of this fact. Getting mad at Daegul probably won't help, since he's likely being agressive because he's a townie who feels guilty for managing to kill the wrong people. Justifiably angry perhaps.

Perhaps the smart move would be to vote for Tick, because to some degree, Carmine is somewhat cleared, and assuming Daegul isn't lying, then he's cleared also. Makes sense, to some degree.

I can't think of a way to prove myself as a townie, so I'm not sure how to proceed.

Perhaps the smart move would be to vote for Tick, because to some degree, Carmine is somewhat cleared, and assuming Daegul isn't lying, then he's cleared also. Makes sense, to some degree.

This is one of the dodgiest statements i've ever seen.
Carmine has claimed an action that no-one has questioned, given, but that says nothing abuot her allignment ( puttnig adapa up does go a bit towards it though)
that said, carmine is the only one I am happy to accept is a townie.

Dude, we are all cleared if you assume we aren't lying... that is a ridiculous thing to say.

I realised today at work, that I probably could have voted yesterday. Dubya said something about other vote/posting restrictions being discounted for the day, I wish i'd thought more about it at the time.

I've also realised that with me being unable to vote, it is going to be hard to get a majority without me voting, perhaps dubya is willing to make an acception in this case, as the way I see it, it is impossible for the town to win unless I vote.

I'm awaiting confirmation from dubya on the matter.

Any role related questions will be addressed in private.

Why are people trying to lynch me? I'm a townie. I'm sewer worker, but I'm a townie just the same.

ok time to risk it.
vote thalasso

vote count

Thalasso 3 (Daegul, Carmine, tick)

3 to lynch

As the session commences today, the four of you stare at each other. You decided to just tell each other what you do, and hopefully figure which is the mafia. Everyone has their turn, but you all start when Thalasso mentions he digs sewers. What? A common pleb? Surely this can't be. Thalasso begs, saying he really is and even saw Haug one night, but you disbelieve. The three of you grab him and hang him from a tree. Lynched, just like the mafia scum he is.

Satisfied, you turn to retire for the evening when you hear a gun cock behind you. "Not so fast," says tick. "Now that there's only two of you, I want to let you know something. Thalasso was just a poor young man, a hard worker, the son of Irish immigrants. I, on the other hand, am mafia." He quickly shoots the two of you dead and calls the cops. The corrupt police clear away the bodies and never charge him. Why should they? The mafia always prevails in Chicago.