Hi guys!

Thanks for playing (and putting up with my modding).

The set-up for this 12 player game was this:
3 Mafia : La Paloma, Dubya/James, Tick
2 lucifer's nephews : Serenity, Carmine/Kurupt
1 snoop : Lacero
1 doc : Spookybeth
1 loner : Dasquian
4 townies : Mono, Wallsy, Hi Colonic, MystikEel

Here are the role PMs:

3 Mafia

You, along with <name> and <name> are a little demon disguised as a little angel.
You tagged along with your larger relatives as they mounted this audacious
expedition to heaven. You've no idea why they came, but while you're here, you're
sure as hell going to have some fun.

Each night, one of you must choose another player to accompany home after
nursery. You will whisper evil, unsettling thoughts to them and they will be too
disturbed to return to nursery again.

Instead of using your evil whisperings, you may use a bag of noxious sulfur
fumes brought from the very depths of hell.
This will make the targetted angel so ill they will never return to nursery,
no matter what.
However, this can only be used once.

You win when the real little angels can no longer get rid of you.

Snoop

You are a little angel, enjoying the early days of your heavenly career.
Each night, you may choose to target another player and follow them home from
nursery, seeing where they go.
You win when the bad guys are all found out.

Doc

You are a little angel, enjoying the early days of your heavenly career.
Each night, you may choose to target another player and talk with them, calming
their worries.
You win when the bad guys are all found out.

2 Lucifer's nephews

You are a little angel, but no ordinary one.
You, along with <name> are two of the forgotten nephews of Lucifer.
Your uncle regularly sends you letters, which you treasure.
Each night, one of you must go to collect one of these letters, which you'll
read together in your secret den.
This means you may communicate with each other at night.
You win when the bad guys are all found out.

1 loner

You are a little angel, not enjoying the early days of your heavenly career at
all.
You're sure nobody else in the class likes you, but that's okay, because each
night after nursery, you hurry to your secret little hideaway and play with your
toys.
It's all okay again when you're alone in your den.
You win when the bad guys are all found out.

Townie

You are a little angel, enjoying the early days of your heavenly career.
You win when the bad guys are all found out.

Special rules:

Lucifer's nephews:

If the mafia choose to target one of them in the night with their whispers, the nephew will be recruited to the evil side IF THERE ARE 2 OR FEWER MAFIA LEFT. Otherwise, they will be killed as a normal townie.

As soon as one is recruited, the mason group is broken and both players will be told they can no longer speak to each other during the night.
The still-townie one will only be told that his brother didn't return with the letter, and this upset him so much he won't speak to him any more.
From then on, the unrecruited nephew is a normal townie.

Whichever angel goes to collect the letter will turn up as being out that night to a snoop.

Loner:

The loner turns up as out at night to a snoop.

Meh, I knew I should've pressed for LP's lynch on Day 4 instead of handing the game to the mafia on a plate by going for Mono.

Thanks for modding Daegul - it was a great setup, it's just a shame it dragged so badly.

My reasoning behind the setup:

I knew full well that this setup looked very biased toward the mafia, but at the time I was writing it, we seemed to have very few mafia wins.
I was also concerned that a two person mafia could be scuppered all too easily by a random lynch or a lucky cop.
So my intention was to provide a game with plenty of flavour to fuel debate and try to encourage people to analyse each player's choices and style, rather than relying on the powerful roles.

So I started with a three person mafia with a single shot doc-buster, and gave the town a snoop (rather than a cop) and a doc.
I also added some false positives for the snoop to keep it interesting.

The half-recruitable mason group was a gamble.
I wanted the game to still be winnable for the mafia if they were down to one - as this could happen through no bad play of their own.
I also thought that having someone recruitable by the mafia was going to tip it too far in their favour, even with the restriction that it can't happen when the mafia were at full strength.
So I figured that making a mason group where one of them would know something was up when the other was recruited was both more balanced and much more interesting.

I think I might've gone a little too mafia-biased, but it's difficult to tell because a large factor was absence (both players' and mine).

However, I hope it was an interesting and enjoyable game despite the difficulties.

A big mistake I did make was telling those who died who had killed them.
It seemed like a lovely dose of flavour at the time, but when I needed replacements, it bit me big.

Thanks for modding, Daegul, and well done on winning you evil mafia. I thought you were a bit cheery when I got lynched tick... (you got lynched? oops haha!).

heheheh thanks daegul!
yeah mono, i was pretty sure the game had been won at that stage, and was being quite cheeky with my comments after the lynch was sealed

das, hahah i was 75% sure you had actually investigated me on day 1! if you had pushed me a bit harder I was going to get worried! hahaha

otoh, it's lucky the mafia didn't realise they could break the docs protection.

We knew we had a doc-buster kill method, we just chose not to use it. Only person we considered using it on was das, but we were worried that that might not even kill him.

lp was pretty sure spooky was the cop, so that why chose that kill.
We killed wallsy solely to speed the game up, we had chosen someone else I believe and after a week or so askde daegul to change to wallsy so we could get the game up and running again.

My early result on tick was perhaps a bit unlucky, I'd assumed mafia had to leave their houses to talk and even when he was making blatently inconsistent accusations against me I still wouldn't budge and see him as mafia. oh well.

The general rule is only the mafia who goes out to make the kill, in games where such a choice is made, is seen as going out to snoop roles, that is the point of making the mafia choose a killer.
At the same time, however, we chose for lp to continue making the kills in case you decided to check up on me again.

I must say i was rather surprised das put that vote down on mono at the end there. I bided my time til i saw that LP was on the forum at the same time so i could put my vote down feelnig pretty confident that LP's would follow, i assume lp was doing a similar thing.
All the confusion and apologies after were just funny

*Hi-Fives tick*

A great pleasure working with The Master of Dead-Pan, sir!

I was so very, very happy to see that tick had logged in early on Day Four, since I had to spend all day at work. My comment to Dasquian defending Mono - a few hours earlier - was the first deliberately snarky post I made to Das'. (Sorry!) Since I really didn't want him changing his mind and taking that vote off I wanted Dasquian to feel he was correct in thinking I was Scum with Mono. (I didn't want him switching his vote to me mind, so I was pretty nervous about deliberately trying to piss Das' off.)

I knew Tick was evil. I was just starting to get a good argument against him, then you guys lynch Mono.

Good practise for when I start a game from the start.

You were heaps suss where I joined in.

bahaha, did we just both decide to throw the second vote on and posted simultaneously?
that's kind of unfortuante, and rather bad timing aye? ;P

the ;P was for LP heheh bad timing indeed....

and yeah mono, own up!!! tell us the real truth!!!

was me making fun of kurupt suggesting mono should come clean now.

i don't think dasquian really had a plan beyond hope mono is mafia?

Laughing at das' plan

and anyone else want to claim an investigative role and try and ruffle my feathers again? already happened twice, a third time might just get me to crack!!

General Mirth at all the "tick is mafia" claims thrown at me throughout the game

Even when you guys were getting narked by our back-and-forth, you weren't presenting much in the way of alternatives. This has to change, because it makes the game a chore, not fun.

It suited my purpouses so I was more than happy to keep it going without adding anything. I knew it was getting frustrating though.

re. das' 'investigation' of me, you'll note I never once actually said anything to negate your claim

I wrote

Interesting wallsy thinks you should say straight away whether you are going on anything real or just playing the bluff, I think it much better you leave an air of intrigue. (And not just cause it's me! If it was someone else I mean i reckon it'd be better to leave it up in the air also.)

But seeing as it as me, i'm pretty sure he is making it up. Or has contrary results perhaps.

encouraging to not actually say one way or another, in case you had found me guilty, and also covering my bases re. a contrary result, in case you had found me guilty.